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If nothing else, they make ME really happy with WL! ;)

You are one of those folks who I am so glad that I met and have had the chance to know *despite* me being so shy, and definitely a silver lining from a stormy time! <3 Much love. <333

As a Boudoir Rouge girl, my dear, you did awesomely well fighting your shyness. I guess it is all about the setting. You can feel less shy if your in a comfortable setting. It’s funny you mention this because you were one of the girls I had in head when this lovely reporter interviewed me:

http://www.slnn.com/index.php?SCREEN=article&about=something-red

Love you sweetheart! mwah! <3

Codie

Hmm. Now I know that notices were abused and were the source of a lot of annoyance for some members (myself included, when they were being used to just chat-in-the-form-of-announcements) but I don’t think that the entire group is untrustworthy. -shrug-

For me, I refuse to leave MM because it’s full of a lot of great mentors and friends.

You’re right, there is no easy answer to this, and I know that you don’t and didn’t mean harm to anyone, Prad. I know that you are doing what you feel is right, and trying to help protect content creators - yourself, me, and all the other talented creators in SL™.

I honestly think that MM should allow notices for users other than officers, because of the accountability issues, for the most part. Let people “apply” for notice rights, and let them be stripped of notice rights if they abuse it at all - but the owners/officers/admins taking the blame, and then, by virtue of them being in the position they are, having it reflect on the whole group, is unfair.

No easy answer, that’s for sure, but there has to be an answer, somewhere. :\

The counter argument was that the members of the group can’t be trusted to be sensible with how many notices are sent.

There’s no easy answer to this, in my opinion, but I feel something has to be done in order to keep Mental Mentors viable. Hence why I wrote the blog entry.. if the members of the group are aware, they can take action. Heaven knows the group owners aren’t interested..

I can also completely understand the frustration that comes from feeling as if you are getting a great big “so what” in response to a problem, regardless of where it comes from!

I even agree that something needs to change with regards to the freebie boxes that go out in MM. Your solution is one way to go, but it also limits those of us who have very useful things we didn’t create but which we are allowed to redistribute.

However, with that said, I’d also point out that there is a lot more stuff that I could share, and would share, if I could send it out myself.

I trust that if I request that something that I send out be marked “no transfer,” for example, that the officers would do their best to make sure it was marked such before it was passed along. BUT - accidents happen. I’d rather if an accident happened with something that I made, that it be my fault and mine alone. This way I can not be upset at anyone but me. :)

I also feel very strongly that there very much should be personal accountability for what goes out! In my mind this means that if you are sending something out to MM, it should come directly from you. That way, if there is a problem with it, then there is no one to blame but you. (The ‘you’ being a generalized you, not you specifically.)

Frankly, my thoughts on that matter are that people ought to be allowed to send out their own goodie boxes - give the ability to send notices back to the members of MM. If any abuse it, either move them to a role where they can’t send again, or eject them. Alternatively, let those who want the ability request it, but remove that ability again if abused.

When the goodie box with the plants in it went out, I am sure that wasn’t deliberate. Yet, I also see that it coming from officers and admins causes the group to take the heat as a whole.

Like I said, I’m a big fan of people being responsible for their own actions, held accountable for their own mistakes - not so much with every member of a group being labeled the same way regardless of what they did or didn’t have anything to do with.

Firstly, I’ll apologise that I may not have expressed clearly enough that I don’t blame the vast majority of Second Life®™ Mentors in the Mental Mentors group, who I know support IP rights in the Second Life®™ community. I know - I used to be one of them, and still have many friends in the MM group =)

My troubles lie with the people who are running the group and their reaction to what happened, which I feel is going to let the whole group down. You make the point that they were unaware of what happened, and I know that. But as soon as they were made aware, their response was an equivalent of “So what?”, which I felt wasn’t an appropriate measure.

The policies of the Mental Mentors group are decided by the few, not the majority.. it’s not a democratic group, and it doesn’t claim to be. While the actions of a few determine the position of the group, you will find that the broad brush will continue to paint red stains upon the Mental Mentors group, as the owners of the group aren’t listening to reason, and the group as a whole is facing scrutiny as a result. Unfair, it is, but the group owners are the only ones to blame for that.

You also make the point that by removing myself from the group, I have removed a set of vigilant eyes. I’d have happily stayed in the group if I’d have seen a positive response from the group owners, but what’s the point of staying in a group and being a set of vigilant eyes if the owners aren’t willing to do anything about it? I don’t see the point in IMing the group owners every few weeks to point out that this, that or the other has accidently been sent out, and then get a notice informing members to delete it. Why not just tackle the root cause of the problem, and not have to face this problem again?

I’m also not interested in policing the Mental Mentors group.. it was always just a fun group to me for me to chat with friends and other mentors. All these restrictions that the new owners put in place have killed the fun that the group once was, and have made the group open to attack and tarnished its reputation.

It sounds like you’re one of the good guys, and although the group owners prevented me from going directly to the group members and making my case to them, it’s the Mental Mentors who hold the group’s future in their hands.